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  <title type="text">misc.invest.financial-plan Google Group</title>
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  Financial planning in general. (Moderated)
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  <updated>2010-03-11T03:29:59Z</updated>
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  <author>
  <name>anoop</name>
  <email>ghanw...@gmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2010-03-11T03:29:59Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">how to deal with K-1 in TurboTax?</title>
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  I traded an ETF in 2009 and received a K-1 Form 1065. The gain on &lt;br&gt; those shares was also reported through my brokerage statement (which I &lt;br&gt; downloaded into turbotax directly from the brokerage site). &lt;br&gt; So, do I need to go in and delete that specific sale from Schedule D &lt;br&gt; after entering the K-1 information? On the screen for &amp;quot;Enter Sales
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  <author>
  <name>dapperdobbs</name>
  <email>george...@hotmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2010-03-11T02:11:47Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: The American dream</title>
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  Elle, I liked the statistics in the other one, but values are very &lt;br&gt; important, including &amp;quot;saving&amp;quot; as opposed to &amp;quot;consuming.&amp;quot; The title to &lt;br&gt; the article linked below is &lt;br&gt; 43% have less than 10k for retirement &lt;br&gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://money.cnn.com/2010/03/09/pf/retirement_confidence/index.htm&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; Paraphrasing from it: Apparently 60% of retirement costs will be
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  <author>
  <name>dapperdobbs</name>
  <email>george...@hotmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2010-03-11T01:32:19Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: Do rich people need health insurance?</title>
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  On Mar 10, 10:58 am, &amp;quot;HW \&amp;quot;Skip\&amp;quot; Weldon&amp;quot; &lt;br&gt; [snip] &lt;br&gt; I&#39;m not disposed to the insurance notion insofar as medical services &lt;br&gt; goes, and certainly opposed to government mandated insurance. &lt;br&gt; Some things in man remain constant through thousands of years of &lt;br&gt; cultures, and I do not see the wisdom of compromising those in order
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  <author>
  <name>dapperdobbs</name>
  <email>george...@hotmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2010-03-11T01:24:59Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: Do rich people need health insurance?</title>
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  Why, thank you so much for your timely correction! I assure you I had &lt;br&gt; no intent of disparging Mr. Strauss or his wife in any manner. The &lt;br&gt; first link below contains greater specificty. &lt;br&gt; The second link addresses a summary time line of the sinking of the &lt;br&gt; Titanic, and the unfortunate problems.the crew encountered.
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  <author>
  <name>Chip</name>
  <email>chip.a.w...@gmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2010-03-10T16:32:41Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: Do rich people need health insurance?</title>
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  (snipped- much right wing-nut hated!) &lt;br&gt; Wow, where is THAT documented by reliable sources? BTW, if the people &lt;br&gt; were locked in steerage, how could they mess up the lifeboats and take &lt;br&gt; the seats of &amp;quot;Gentlemen&amp;quot;? &lt;br&gt; If this is a moderated list, I suggest the moderators start reading for &lt;br&gt; such diatribe as in this message.
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  <author>
  <name>rick++</name>
  <email>rick...@hotmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2010-03-10T15:52:24Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: Do rich people need health insurance?</title>
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  If its not $2K a month now, it will be so soon enough. &lt;br&gt; Rates have been doubling every five years when you add in &lt;br&gt; the age-related increases. A $1000 a month now &lt;br&gt; will be $4000 in 2020, $16000 in 2030. Dont laugh. &lt;br&gt; Private insurance in the 1990s was &amp;quot;almost free&amp;quot; compared to now.
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  <author>
  <name>HW Skip Weldon</name>
  <email>skip5700removet...@yahoo.com</email>
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  <updated>2010-03-10T15:58:26Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: Do rich people need health insurance?</title>
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  On Tue, 9 Mar 2010 19:43:23 -0600, dapperdobbs &amp;lt;George...@hotmail.com&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt; wrote: &lt;br&gt; While I might express it more softly &amp;lt;g&amp;gt;, I agree with your premise. &lt;br&gt; Unfortunately, from a political perspective I think we&#39;ll have to give &lt;br&gt; a little to those who feel everyone should have insurance. &lt;br&gt; To get what we want (liability limits, less government interference
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  <author>
  <name>rick++</name>
  <email>rick...@hotmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2010-03-10T15:52:32Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: Do rich people need health insurance?</title>
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  Most of these are teaser rates for perfect health the previous five &lt;br&gt; years. &lt;br&gt; If you have any current condition, prescription or a hospitalization &lt;br&gt; in the past years expect to be offered 50%-100% higher if they &lt;br&gt; accept you at all.
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  <author>
  <name>Wallace</name>
  <email>pleasenos...@microsoft.com</email>
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  <updated>2010-03-10T10:08:16Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: Do rich people need health insurance?</title>
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  Correct. And the purpose of the current health care efforts in congress is &lt;br&gt; to shift financial risk to someone else.
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  <name>dapperdobbs</name>
  <email>george...@hotmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2010-03-10T01:56:38Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: Do rich people need health insurance?</title>
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  [snip] &lt;br&gt; I think most people recognize all the very valid points you made. Some &lt;br&gt; vocal few squeal loudly, and it appears that those are the majority. &lt;br&gt; One wag on CNBC quipped about &amp;quot;health care reform,&amp;quot; he said, &lt;br&gt; presumably to the remaining fanatical proponents, &amp;quot;What part of the &lt;br&gt; word &amp;quot;NO&amp;quot; do you not understand?
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  <author>
  <name>dapperdobbs</name>
  <email>george...@hotmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2010-03-10T01:43:23Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: Do rich people need health insurance?</title>
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  On Mar 9, 2:11 pm, &amp;quot;Gene E. Utterback, EA, RFC, ABA&amp;quot; &lt;br&gt; [snip] &lt;br&gt; [snip] &lt;br&gt; The artificial demand pull created by insurance raises the price to &lt;br&gt; everyone. &lt;br&gt; The real cost drivers are avaricious lawyers, bureacuracy, and &lt;br&gt; insurance. So the current plan is to do nothing about the lawyers (as &lt;br&gt; idiot juries continue to award hundreds of millions to people who &amp;quot;did
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  <author>
  <name>dumbstruck</name>
  <email>dumbst...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2010-03-10T00:07:18Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: Return of Capital from ETF -- Tax Treatment?</title>
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  Oh rats, a commodity etf (as a publicly traded partnership) has sent &lt;br&gt; me a K-1 form against my traditional IRA declaring &amp;quot;adjustments to &lt;br&gt; basis&amp;quot;. I assume this is not normally of relevance because you &lt;br&gt; typically will treat the whole shebang with basis of zero. Hopefully &lt;br&gt; it is only for folks doing fancy transactions - this IRA of mine is in
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  <author>
  <name>Bill</name>
  <email>nos...@nospam.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2010-03-10T00:08:00Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: Do rich people need health insurance?</title>
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  More accurately, the purpose of insurance is to evenly distribute the &lt;br&gt; financial burden over the the members of the group that participate in &lt;br&gt; the plan. Those who sustain little or no loss will subsidize the few &lt;br&gt; who sustain large losses.
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  <author>
  <name>Elle</name>
  <email>honda.lion...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2010-03-09T22:35:41Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: Do rich people need health insurance?</title>
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  On Mar 9, 12:11ï¿½pm, &amp;quot;Gene E. Utterback, EA, RFC, ABA&amp;quot; &lt;br&gt; I would have said, to be maybe a bit more clear, &amp;quot;to distribute &lt;br&gt; financial risk over a group.&amp;quot; &lt;br&gt; Every few years I check what HD health insurance would cost me. Since &lt;br&gt; about 2003, the overwhelming majority of HD plans offer deductibles &lt;br&gt; that are $5k or less. Many free online comparators attest to this. I
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  <author>
  <name>ps56k</name>
  <email>pschuman_no_spam...@interserv.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2010-03-09T21:39:13Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: Fidelity IRA funds for 2010</title>
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  I was just laying low since the 2007 collapse.... and haven&#39;t picked &lt;br&gt; anything new since then. &lt;br&gt; Have had FSEAX and FEMKX - and still seems to be the &amp;quot;sector&amp;quot; to have, &lt;br&gt; but can&#39;t figure out why these are in the lower half of the perf group. &lt;br&gt; At this point - just looking for something to keep ahead of inflation...
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